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chaostrom skeleton warrior
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 411
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:03 am Post subject: Alliances |
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Somewhere in this forum, somebody listed the 12 groups in the game, and according to the list, Merka and the shop guards are in a group all of their own.
So in recent times, when messing around in WizMod, I have taken adoption papers to Merka. Now, the advantage of that, is that once you're adopted by Merka (or even one of the shop guards), you have political immunity. You can attack anyone you want without fear of retaliation, you can nick stuff from the cathedral treasury/armoury, monsters aren't hostile. You still have to buy things, but it makes spelunking (spelling?) so much easier  |
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Beaver X mutant ass

Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 77
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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Call me ignorant, but what are adoption papers, and how do you get them? _________________ CPT. FLOWERS: If I weren't your CO I'd pick you both up, give you a giant bear hug and make you call me daddy.
CHURCH: Um... thank God for the chain of command?
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Somagu werewolf

Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 547 Location: In AFK-Land™
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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He was JOKING, there are no adoption papers, he most likely used Wizard Mode, because I don't recall being able to tame the dungeon shopkeep.
EDIT :: Well I suppose by adoption papers he could have meant Scroll of Taming, but I dunno if that works on him. _________________ FROG BLAST THE VENT CORE!
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chaostrom skeleton warrior
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 411
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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By adoption papers I do mean the scroll of taming, and the taming is done by the shopkeeper, not you.
To be specific, I started the game, turned on Wizard Mode (WizMod as I like to call it), got a scroll of taming from the free set of 5 scrolls of wishing, went over to GC, looked for the shop, dropped the scroll of taming nearby, possessed Merka, picked up the scroll of taming, tamed my character. I then re-possessed my character, kicked Merka and the shop guards so they won't follow me around, and voila! Political immunity.  |
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dalboz goblin prince

Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 490 Location: in front of the computer screen
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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no way you can do it out of wizmode right? _________________ "Think like a madman" |
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chaostrom skeleton warrior
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 411
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Correct. Not only is possession a WizMod only ability, even when playing legit it's impossible to tame any person who already has a name. The "has-name=no-tame" doesn't apply to monsters, but that's about it. |
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Z wolf

Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 336
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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I did not try to tame anyone named, but when I resurrected Sherarax after slaying her, she fell in love with me. _________________ 3D mode, screenshots and my other IVAN stuff |
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Captain Action kobold lord
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 173
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Damn! Now there's a pet! |
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Z wolf

Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 336
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chaostrom skeleton warrior
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 411
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe she decided you weren't so bad
Really, resurrection is different from taming, but it's a great way to get allies. There's no chance of it not working, because you gave them life, so they're bound to you. You can still piss 'em off, though, which is why I like the political immunity granted by Merka 8)
Excellent choice of partner, though, well done Z! Of all the creatures in IVAN, only Petrus' wives have more CHA than Raxy, but Raxy's a hell of a lot more useful |
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dalboz goblin prince

Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 490 Location: in front of the computer screen
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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the only bad thing about resurrecting dead monsters is that they can give you leprosy. And that they look a hell lot worse ("Hey Rax, you're looking a bit green today") _________________ "Think like a madman" |
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Atomic archangel

Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 1442 Location: In the fire
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Are you talking ressurection or necromancy? I'll admit, I've done very little tinkering with either one; I'm not fond of pets... I DO know that it's possible to ressurect the corpses from bones files, if you can get the ghost and the corpse in the same place... _________________ "Also, I'm the only person I know capable of a pelvic pary and riposte." -- Squashmonster
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chaostrom skeleton warrior
Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 411
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure resurrected monsters (as opposed to monsters brought back by necromancy) don't have leprosy... But then again, what do I know? I don't like pets too much either - they can be helpful in certain situations but in general they're just annoying, unless it be a status-giving, INT-raising, awesome spell-caster 8)
EDIT: I left out WIS-raising...  |
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dalboz goblin prince

Joined: 23 Jul 2005 Posts: 490 Location: in front of the computer screen
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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mystical froggies and battlemages seem to do just that. and tamed necromancers resurrect just about every dead thing on the level, so before long, you'd have an entire army of leprosy-giving, butt-kicking zombies  _________________ "Think like a madman" |
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chaostrom skeleton warrior
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Necromancers are definitely useful when conquering a town, but otherwise they are the worst. Don't forget, hanging around with zombies get you leprosy. |
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