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McFrugal · Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 3

I decided, since the material list generated by Wizard Mode doesn't list materials by catagory, that I would cheat a whole lot of SoCM and SoHM so I could find out for myself exactly how it works. Here are the results.
The numbers are Strength/Flexibility/Density.

METAL

Sulfur . . . . . . . . . 50/3/2000
Tin . . . . . . . . . . . 60/1/7250
Copper . . . . . . . .70/1/9000
Bronze . . . . . . . . 80/1/8300
Iron . . . . . . . . . .100/1/8000
Steel . . . . . . . . .125/1/7500
Meteoric Steel . .150/1/7000
Adamantine . . . 350/1/10000

LEATHERY

Leather . . . . . . . . . . 20/10/800
Hardened Leather* . 35/7/1200
Troll Hide . . . . . . . . . 45/5/2000
Ommel Hair . . . . . . . 60/15/400
Phoenix Feather . . . 80/30/200
Dragon Hide . . . . . .150/5/2500

*Nymph Hair also hardens into Troll Hide, and is part of another catagory:
ALTERNATE LEATHERY

Leaf . . . . . . . 3/10/500
Palm Leaf . . . 5/10/500
Nymph Hair . 35/20/300
Troll Hide . . . 45/5/2000
etc

WOOD

Balsa . .20/2/250
Pine . . .25/1/400
Fir . . . . 30/1/500
Birch . . 35/1/600
Oak . . .45/1/700
Teak . . 50/1/750
Ebony . 65/1/1000

STONE/CRYSTAL

Sandstone . . . . . . . . 25/1/2300
Limestone . . . . . . . . .30/1/2500
Calcite . . . . . . . . . . . .35/1/2700
Obsidian . . . . . . . . . . 40/1/2400
Gneiss . . . . . . . . . . . .45/1/2900
Slate . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50/1/2700
Granite . . . . . . . . . . . 55/1/2700
Basalt . . . . . . . . . . . . 60/1/2900
Milky Quartz* . . . . . . 65/1/2650
Quartzite** . . . . . . . .70/1/2700
Purple Light Crystal . 130/1/2000
Blue Light Crystal . . .140/1/2000
Green Light Crystal . 150/1/2000

* Flint (65/1/2650) also hardens into Quartzite, but has no predecessor.
** Rock Crystal, Jasper, Amethyst, and Citrine (75/1/2650) also harden into Crystal (purple) and have no predecessors.

MAGICAL

Arcanite . 180/3/800
Mithril . . .200/2/5000
Octiron . .275/2/900

VALUABLE

Silver . . . . 60/1/10500
Sapphire . 250/1/4000
Diamond . 300/1/3500

VALUABLE 2

Golden . . . 55/3/20000
Ruby . . . . 250/1/4000
Diamond . 300/1/3500

GLASS

Glass . . . .40/1/2500
Illithium . 225/1/6000

CLOTH

Cloth . . . . . . 5/15/500
Angel Hair . 140/25/300

PARCHMENT

Parchment . . .7/10/800
Spider Silk . 180/20/300

BONE

Bone . . . . . . . 40/1/2000
Ommel Bone . 250/4/750

Everything else is isolated. Nothing can harden into them, and they cannot be hardened. Mostly this includes food and flesh, however there are some useful ones-
Valpurium . 400/4/3000

Golden Eagle Feather . 300/25/100

Pepsi . 200/50/1500

Acidous Blood . 150/40/1000

Kevlar . 140/15/1500

Unicorn Horn . 200/1/2000

Ommel Tooth . 375/1/5000

I'm not entirely sure yet which of these can be wished for outside of Wizard Mode, aside from Valpurium and Kevlar, which simply require a high int- Valpurium especially so.

That's about it.

chaostrom · skeleton warrior Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 411

Wow, you've gone to a fair bit of trouble. It's appreciated, but it was also, unfortunately, unneccesary. See this link.

http://www.sp0rky-n00b.co.uk/temp/materials2.html

Although there are three other material lists, this one's my favourite. There's probably already a thread for this... but if there is, it's long dead.

A round of applause for all the hard work though, you deserve it Smile

McFrugal · Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 3

Ah. Well okay then. At least now I'm more likely to remember this stuff.

I've never found any scrolls of change material without cheating. In that list you just linked, does *** in the int requirement column mean it's impossible to wish for it via SoCM outside of Wizard Mode?

Atomic · Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

The list Chaos linked was created by me, and is also linked in the Off Topic forum (under Handy Links). *** means there is no int requirement for that material. Non-wishability is denoted by seperate tags in the script files; I didn't bother going through and marking them all when I created that list. One thing to keep in mind though, is that gasses and liquids are unwishable. Some other materials SHOULD be unwishable, but aren't; for example, ommel cerumen.
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Beaver X · mutant ass Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 77

Huh... I've always had meteoric steel turn to mithril and then to adamant, or if i'm cheating, mithril to octitron.
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Atomic · Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject:

Meteoric steel shouldn't turn to mithril, it should go straight to adamant. Mithril should always go to octiron, not adamant. Is there a bug that needs fixing?
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Beaver X · mutant ass Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 77

Maybe just unique to mine. As I've said before, I got this game off my school computer, maybe the blessed soul who put it there screwed around with it first.
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Atomic · Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject:

Maybe you should download a fresh copy off the official site...
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Beaver X · mutant ass Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 77

Why bother? Everything else seems to be fine. Besides, I have dial-up, so downloads take forever.
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Atomic · Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 5:27 pm Post subject:

I've got dialup too. It really doesn't take that long. Unless you have absolute crap for dialup...
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Beaver X · mutant ass Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 77

I do.

And still, why bother?
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blob · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 9:55 am Post subject:

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