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AlGoblin · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: Training appliances

Ok guys. I don't recall or realise we were discussing this topic

[bit spoily, or munchkiny or expert][spoily]

Portable trainers!

Broken bottles are fun. Drop them, take off Your shoes and step right up until Your feet get red... By losing hp and regaining them later, You train END (but mind the danger level!). But there is one even better trainer.

I mean, if You carry banana splits, drop them, and step over 'em It trains AGI, for evading/surviving a trap, and If You hurt Yourself falling, and rest - END, too! Don't believe the AGI blabla? Put a nice trail of banana splits on the banana grower's way, and IF they survive numerous trails or perhaps, trials, check them out with a stethoscope. Shocking fun! Very Happy

Do You know any more things like this?
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Atomic · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject:

You can use Mellis to get school food on a regular basis, which is good for END training.

This has been discussed before -- Captain Action once attempted to train up all stats to 30+, and posted about it. There was some discussion about training... what stat was it? Perception? Wisdom? Intelligence? I can't remember. Charisma perhaps.

Another couple END training tricks: Drink bottles of poison or sulpheric acid. (Don't. Poison you might be able to survive with rediculous amounts of health, but a bottle of sulpheric acid will melt your head off even if you had over 1000 HP.)

In any case, the broken bottles trick can be tricky lategame, because as of 050 body armor and cloaks will still protect your feet from glass. (Cloak AC applies to all bodyparts, and body armor AC applies I believe 1/2 to arms and legs.) I believe they were planning to make an exception to that for broken glass, though for other sources it the extra AC bonuses would still apply.
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Ernomouse · Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:27 pm Post subject:

Weell.. I'm not sure about if you wanted to know about training other stats, but here I go anyway. I'ts 2:15 at the night after a long day, so please bear with the typos.

Arm strength: Get a heavy, inaccurate weapon and try to squash a mice, or something else small & harmless. More swings, more weight, more training... Water is a good thing to carry around.

Leg strength: Start collecting stones. Or other heavy artifacts anf carry them around...

Agility: Run as much as you can. Is there any more simple way to do t? Remember, thet you'll get exhausted...

Wisdom: Pray to gods? Offer sacrifices? I'm not sure... Read?

Intelligence: Read.

Perception, Charisma I do not know about.

And, I generally don't stat-train my charachters. I might prefer running to walking, but that's just to get somewhere faster. ;)
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Captain Action · kobold lord Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 173

For agility find some wimpy monsters (Giant mushrooms) and get them to miss you. This will work well up to 25ish agility then the stat gains come slow. Every time a monster misses you, your character trains their agility.

Wisdom is trained/harmed by changing the opinions of the gods of your character and scitalking to monsters and NPCs.

I gotta try that "wiff" method to improving arm strength.

Atomic · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:07 am Post subject:

Halberds work great for training AStr. If you find a halberd on UT1, it's not unlikely that you'll have 17+ AStr before you get to Attnam.

Charisma I think you can just chat to people to train, but it's really slow and not worth it.

Perception seems to be trained by dodging as well. Or perhaps by parrying/blocking with shields. When I was testing my acid shield, I equipped two of them, went to UT3 and got surrounded by plants. I recall getting a couple PE increases. (By the way, don't test acid gear on plants. They're kinda immune. Razz

)

Also on the agility, drinking any potion will restore your exhaustion, allowing you to run more. Water is best because it doesn't have any other uses and is common (infinite from fountains).
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Ernomouse · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 8:26 am Post subject:

..though I have a faint memory that driking fountain-water from a bottle wouldn'tn't remove exhaustion. Which is kinda stupid.
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dalboz · Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 11:52 am Post subject:

you can train perception by throwing things, I think, though it's VERY slow.
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chaostrom · skeleton warrior Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 411

Arm Strength - swinging heavy weapons, ommel urine
Leg Strength - carrying a lot of weight, ommel urine
Dexterity - fast hits, opening doors, ommel sweat
Agility - running, dodging, ommel sweat
Endurance - healing a lot, school food, ommel snot
Perception - parrying, zapping, throwing, ommel tears
Charisma - talking, ommel tears
Intelligence - sci-talking, scrolls, ommel cerumen
Wisdom - sci-talking, books, ommel cerumen

Holy banana increases everything

I think that's about it. Don't think I've left anything out...

Somagu · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:

Yeah, you left out Carrots.
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Atomic · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:35 am Post subject:

Carrots are awesome. Almost as awesome as bananas.
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dalboz · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject:

bananas of the Holy type, you mean.
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Somagu · Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:17 pm Post subject:

No, I'm pretty sure he just means bananas, plain old bananas.
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chaostrom · skeleton warrior Joined: 02 Mar 2006 Posts: 411

1. I did leave out carrots
2. I did mean holy bananas

Anything else I've left out?

Atomic · Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 4:45 am Post subject:

Somagu was referring to me.
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dalboz · Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:52 pm Post subject:

I've just realized: if IVAN has an icebox (like nethack) you can buy bananas cheap in New Attnam, put them in a icebox, then resell them at Attnam for great prices!
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